melissa officinalis ( lemon balm) Crash? Help!

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melissa officinalis ( lemon balm) Crash? Help!

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I took this herb and now I feel completely sexually numb. I'm freaking out really bad, can't believe that maybe I have crashed again? I've just read it's a
serotonergic antidepressant.

I've also found this study, does this means it acts as an SSRI?

https://www.google.cl/url?sa=t&source=w ... SMwebXRqx0

Please someone help! I feel terrible
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I'm sorry, it is the first time I have heard that about the sides of this plant. However it shouldn't be permanent, I think in a couple of days, or a week you will be back to your baseline.
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Gonzo wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:31 am I've also found this studies, does this means it acts as an SSRI?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26408043/
No.
Escitalopram, 10mg/day, Jan-May 2019. Fluoxetine, May-Sept 2019. Mirtazapine 7,5mg/day, November 2019-January 2020. Escitalopram, 5mg/day, Feb-May 2020.
Symptoms: sexual & emotional numbness
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Thomas wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:01 pm
Gonzo wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:31 am I've also found this studies, does this means it acts as an SSRI?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26408043/
No.
Could you explain further? At this moment I feel I'm back to square 1. They conclude it's a serotonergic antidepressant.
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You will bounce back.
Lemon balm, amongst SO many other herbs can crash me too. Very annoying. Give it a week or so.
Lemon balm has serotonin boosting properties or even some of its constituents can bind to 5-HT1A receptor I believe.
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ErgogenicHealth wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:26 pm You will bounce back.
Lemon balm, amongst SO many other herbs can crash me too. Very annoying. Give it a week or so.
Lemon balm has serotonin boosting properties or even some of its constituents can bind to 5-HT1A receptor I believe.
Thank you.
Yes, it's unbelievable. I needed something for anxiety and had the idea that natural herbs could be safe. I was trying to avoid benzos, but it seems that even benzos are safer than herbs in our case.
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Benzos are safe, justo avoid take it for long time and / or high dosing.
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This is so scary. I've completely lost the orgasm and ejaculation with very little amount of semen, along with full genital anesthesia.
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Gonzo wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:36 pm Could you explain further? At this moment I feel I'm back to square 1. They conclude it's a serotonergic antidepressant.
There are many ways for an antidepressant to be serotonergic (= affect serotonin signaling). Inhibiting serotonin reuptake is one of them. They conclude it is serotonergic, they don't conclude it inhibits serotonin reuptake.
Escitalopram, 10mg/day, Jan-May 2019. Fluoxetine, May-Sept 2019. Mirtazapine 7,5mg/day, November 2019-January 2020. Escitalopram, 5mg/day, Feb-May 2020.
Symptoms: sexual & emotional numbness
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Gonzo wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:58 pm the idea that natural herbs could be safe
This is a false assumption.
Natural doesn't mean safe (for instance, cyanide can be extracted from apricot). Natural doesn't even mean safer (nor more dangerous).
Natural would usually mean:
- low concentration => low effect, except for "extracts"
- more history, fewer reports and research => we understand usually better drugs.
Escitalopram, 10mg/day, Jan-May 2019. Fluoxetine, May-Sept 2019. Mirtazapine 7,5mg/day, November 2019-January 2020. Escitalopram, 5mg/day, Feb-May 2020.
Symptoms: sexual & emotional numbness
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