Urecholine (bethanechol)

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Re: Urecholine (bethanechol)

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taarn wrote:
Jaxx wrote:Did others also experience headache, dizzyness? I know its a listed side effect, but its quite significant and it seems to do nothing at all for some. Anyway only my first day with 3 times 30mg.
What are your main PSSD symptoms Jaxx?

It may also be worth to combine it with some kind of dopaminergic if it doesn't help in itself.
Low libido, some ed (as result of libido, function is ok), loss of emotions, motivation, weak orgasm and lower control of orgasm.
And i am combining it with dopamine agonist indeed.
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Jaxx wrote:
taarn wrote:
Jaxx wrote:Did others also experience headache, dizzyness? I know its a listed side effect, but its quite significant and it seems to do nothing at all for some. Anyway only my first day with 3 times 30mg.
What are your main PSSD symptoms Jaxx?

It may also be worth to combine it with some kind of dopaminergic if it doesn't help in itself.
Low libido, some ed (as result of libido, function is ok), loss of emotions, motivation, weak orgasm and lower control of orgasm.
And i am combining it with dopamine agonist indeed.
Hi jaxx . I have also started it. Day 3. 1x25 mg. Felt strong morning wood only in first day. Nothing after that. No increase in diZyneas . I will increase dose slowly
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Guess i might need to build it up a bit slower perhaps. Lets see how i feel tomorrow
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Re: Bethanechol - Myocholine - I´m healed (still)

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Zolofthater420 wrote:First of all, sry for letting you guys wait so long. I haven´t forgotten about you. I was just a bit bussy and enjoying life too. I hope you all do fine somehow :) I still gave some updates in some whatsapp groups.
So i have to say thaat im almost back to normal. I can´t exactly say, but i think maybe 95% - very close to 100%.

I don´t want to say, that it was only the bethanechol, what helped me. I don´t really know. But i can say, that my healing started while taking bethanechol.

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The first week: (i wrote it allready in the oter threat)

So its a week for me now today.
I took the drug 4x 25mg a day.
My symptoms in the first place we're:
-genital anesthesia ( felt like my dick is not a part of my body anymore )
- numb skin everywhere especially at the finger pits
- very less pleasure while masturbating
- hard to achieve orgasm - but possible
- pleasurless orgasm
- delayed orgasm
- low libido
- no nocturnal erections / morning wood ( at least very rare )
- couldn't get erection without physically stimulation
* erection strength was slightly worse but okay
* was only anhedonia the first 2 month, then it was gone from alone - tried suplements but wouldn't say the helped me.
At like the secound day I could feel that my skin weren't as numb as before. I thougt it will be placebo maybe, so I didn't gave it much attention. But it got better than I could ever expect.

As I said in on day 7 now.

My skin numbness and genital anesthesia is completely gone. I can feel my dick now as a part of my body again.
Also i had nocturnal erections and morning wood the last 2 days.
My orgasm is still a bit pleasurless and delayed, but very much better than before. My pleasure while masturbating is also better to a good degree - but not perfect.
I watched porn yesterday and got hard without touching.

I could say i improved in every symptom especially in anesthesia.
I know its only 7 days, but i swear everything is totaly true. I will answer all questions.
My mood is very good today too - not sure if its because my depression is lifting or because urecholine is raising oxytocin - the love hormone.

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Now the news:

So i took the bethanechol for 2 weeks more. My healing was different from day to day (70 to close to 100%) - every day was a bit different.

Then i stopped completely and my symptoms got a bit worse again. Maybe 65-70%.
I was a bit in fear thaat i have to take the betah foreever, or that the relief is not permanent.

I waited like two weeks without taking it and it was still at 65-70% - my main issue were the low libido and the numbness were a bit back (also in fingers).
After those 2 weeks without taking it i wanted to start it again, but i took it very irregular. Some day 2x 25mg, then 1x 25mg, then mybe nothing and them 3x 25mg (not exactly like this, but close to)
I have done that for like 1,5 weeks.

I got better again and i stopped again.
I was just trying to get behind, how much i need, to stay successful.

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since then i haven´t took a single pill betah again, but im still very close to 100%
while imagine having sex or kissing my gf - in both situations i get an errection and sex also feals good again. maybe not exactly like before (i can last a bit longer now, but i don´t care)

So im in a very good state since 3 weeks and i feel mentaly amazing too. depression is gone and energy is very good too.

Some side informations: i hit the gym very often in this time, i took some drugs in this time: weed (almost daily - i know, its not a good habit) , mdma 1 time, mushrooms 2 times

I haven´t double checked my orthography and it´s not my mother tongue - don´t judge me please^^

Im a bit more active here now. I will try to answer all you questions.

I whish you all the best.
surprisingly i seem to be a bit more numb last 2 days. Makes me wonder a bit if we arent at the opposite end of the spectrum.
@zolofthater, how were your emotions and anxiety during pssd?
I have very little emotions, no anxiety and occasional PE.
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Me too I got PE and numbness from 50mg per day for 3 days . discontinued , feel better after 2 days of stopping
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theloneranger86 wrote:Me too I got PE and numbness from 50mg per day for 3 days . discontinued , feel better after 2 days of stopping
i didnt get pe on urecholine though, if anything the opposite. want to do at least a week if things dont get worse.
Tummy is also upset after taking 20 mg, which sucks if you need to take it 3-4 times a day
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the relationship between acetylcholine and dopamine is somewhat unclear to me, seems to work negatively on dopamine, which makes little sense...
Fact is this stuff is making me more numb and i need to pause it for now, hoping to continue it again in a few weeks.
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Jaxx wrote:the relationship between acetylcholine and dopamine is somewhat unclear to me, seems to work negatively on dopamine, which makes little sense...
Fact is this stuff is making me more numb and i need to pause it for now, hoping to continue it again in a few weeks.
For me it decreased my genitalnumbness somewhat, i stopped my trial because of the side effects. My genitalnumbness is still less, and i can feel my vagina almost as a part of my body again, can feel warm and cold better again. Didn't help for sensitivity in the pleasure way tho. (Don't really know how to explain it). Skinnumbness is still the same.
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Jaxx wrote:the relationship between acetylcholine and dopamine is somewhat unclear to me, seems to work negatively on dopamine, which makes little sense...
Fact is this stuff is making me more numb and i need to pause it for now, hoping to continue it again in a few weeks.
Today is the 6th day for me too. It has increased my numbeness too. The inly good thing it did was to increase concentration. Erections are worse. Morning wood worse. I will be stopping it frim tomorrow. The strange thing is that initially it gave me very strong nocturnal erection on first day, i woke up in middle of night with raging boner. But it has all gone now.
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Also gave me anorgasma and retrogate enaculate
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