Pssd acceptance and meditation

[Naczoz]

I don't say that you can't get better mood/mindset if you change your daily routine and somehow improve your overall wellbeing. But its a huge difference between recovery/improvement in pssd symptoms and lifestyle changes or copeing mechanisms that help you survive that mentall state. You still have pssd but you are just in better place in your mind and body, but its not recovering/improveing. Can't you see the difference?

[TalkingAnt]

Naczoz, if one's PSSD symptoms improve to a point where a person can live a normal life, that is called recovery. It doesn't matter how they got there.

You seem to have this strict definition of recovery where one must be able to live an unhealthy lifestyle without symptoms before it's "true" recovery.

If you live an unhealthy lifestyle, you will likely run into mental health issues as you get older anyway.

There are many recovery stories on this very forum in which people attribute their recovery solely to substances they took. There are others where it was lifestyle. But usually it's a combination. Your attitude that no one really recovers is false and misleading.

You need to stop being upset that you may have to live a healthier lifestyle in order to recover. Your long term wellbeing would be improved from a healthy lifestyle even if you didn't have PSSD. Consider it a wake up call.

[Semogomes]

Wake up call. That's what it really was for me, and is that kind of wake up call on a day that you don't want to get up but you HAVE to, no other way. That's life.
I've been already too long time inside this fucking PSSD trap to keep putting me down anyways. I don't accept it. And that's exactly what gives me force to wake up and live my life and health to the fullest with lifestyle and supplements that may help my health (not my PSSD). Till. I. Beat. This. Shit.

And I will.

[Naczoz]

Yeah, thats exacly what I was trying to say - you wont recover from pssd by healthy lifestyle, it can only distract you from pssd-rumination. But it still will be there, and you will be as miserable as before but more healthy.

Many people do not live a healthy lifestyle, take supplements or do yoga shit and yet they are way happier and connected with other people than pssd-sufferes.

Its just another way of copeing, not way to improve or recover.

If that Was that easy that you live a healthy lifestyle and get rid off pssd there wont be this forum or pssd-itself.

[TalkingAnt]

Naczoz, you are still misunderstanding me. Nobody knows what exactly cured people who recovered from PSSD. Usually their stories involve a mix of substances and lifestyle changes. Mine did. The logical conclusion is that one should assign some probability to lifestyle being a factor in recovery. Many people who do not live a healthy lifestyle nor have PSSD are more miserable than some PSSD sufferers here. No one said a healthy lifestyle was easy. It takes a lot more effort than you currently exhibit. And it takes a non-self-defeatist attitude. If you continue to spread false information about the importance of a healthy lifestyle or downplay PSSD recovery stories, you will be banned.

[Semogomes]

Yeah, thats exacly what I was trying to say - you wont recover from pssd by healthy lifestyle, it can only distract you from pssd-rumination. But it still will be there, and you will be as miserable as before but more healthy.

Many people do not live a healthy lifestyle, take supplements or do yoga shit and yet they are way happier and connected with other people than pssd-sufferes.

Its just another way of copeing, not way to improve or recover.

If that Was that easy that you live a healthy lifestyle and get rid off pssd there wont be this forum or pssd-itself.

Ok mister knows-it-all, take your method and dry in despair and denial. That's surely the best way you can handle this bullshit. Good luck, and when is your 16th anniversary?

[narigator]

I see a confusion between acceptance and resignation. Resignation means giving up because you've decided that there's nothing you can do about your situation, whereas acceptance simply means that you accept that your situation happened

In fact, too much rumination has further damaged my sexual symptoms.

For example, since I saw an improvement with meditation my erections and libido have improved. But genital anesthesia is still there. If I get worse with pssd I will not ruminate or obsessively lament as before, since this attitude impairs the possibility of further improvements.

[climb]

I see a confusion between acceptance and resignation. Resignation means giving up because you've decided that there's nothing you can do about your situation, whereas acceptance simply means that you accept that your situation happened

In fact, too much rumination has further damaged my sexual symptoms.

For example, since I saw an improvement with meditation my erections and libido have improved. But genital anesthesia is still there. If I get worse with pssd I will not ruminate or obsessively lament as before, since this attitude impairs the possibility of further improvements.

Agreed, too much negative obsessing about what's happened is likely to increase stress and anxiety, which isn't going to help with recovery or your ability to cope with the situation. I think it's important to take good care of your physical and mental health. That will give you the best platform to try to help your body recover naturally or through other means.

For me, that means:

- no alcohol, caffeine, limit processed sugars.
- Plenty of exercise, sport, getting into nature.
- Spend plenty of time pursuing the things that I like (anhedonia means I don't enjoy them in the same way I used to, but the more you focus on the negatives, the worse these things are).
- I've learnt loads about managing anxiety and depression by managing my lifestyle, behaviour, thoughts using techniques I've gotten through doing a bit of CBT. It takes effort and practice, but is something that can be useful to any person, even those who never even suffered depression.
- Limit the amount of time you spend researching PSSD if you find it has a negative effect on your mental well being. It's possible to allocate a certain amount of time to
research PSSD each week to help you understand what you might be able to do to improve your symptoms whilst also participating in positive action to raise awareness etc
to improve the situation for yourself and others. It's better to at least do these 2 things rather than ruminating on negative feelings.

Agree that meditation can be helpful for reducing stress and anxiety.

[narigator]

I see a confusion between acceptance and resignation. Resignation means giving up because you've decided that there's nothing you can do about your situation, whereas acceptance simply means that you accept that your situation happened

In fact, too much rumination has further damaged my sexual symptoms.

For example, since I saw an improvement with meditation my erections and libido have improved. But genital anesthesia is still there. If I get worse with pssd I will not ruminate or obsessively lament as before, since this attitude impairs the possibility of further improvements.

Agreed, too much negative obsessing about what's happened is likely to increase stress and anxiety, which isn't going to help with recovery or your ability to cope with the situation. I think it's important to take good care of your physical and mental health. That will give you the best platform to try to help your body recover naturally or through other means.

For me, that means:

- no alcohol, caffeine, limit processed sugars.
- Plenty of exercise, sport, getting into nature.
- Spend plenty of time pursuing the things that I like (anhedonia means I don't enjoy them in the same way I used to, but the more you focus on the negatives, the worse these things are).
- I've learnt loads about managing anxiety and depression by managing my lifestyle, behaviour, thoughts using techniques I've gotten through doing a bit of CBT. It takes effort and practice, but is something that can be useful to any person, even those who never even suffered depression.
- Limit the amount of time you spend researching PSSD if you find it has a negative effect on your mental well being. It's possible to allocate a certain amount of time to
research PSSD each week to help you understand what you might be able to do to improve your symptoms whilst also participating in positive action to raise awareness etc
to improve the situation for yourself and others. It's better to at least do these 2 things rather than ruminating on negative feelings.

Agree that meditation can be helpful for reducing stress and anxiety.

Perfect!

[Maxin]

Thoughts can be just as powerful or more than any medication. Ruminating thoughts keep you in sympathetic overdrive where the body literally can’t heal. It’s like a virus attacking the body constantly. Observing thoughts and meditating put us in a parasympathetic mode where the body is able to heal. Stress hormones regulate. If anyone is interested in this further I really recommend joe dispenza.