Are sex meds save?

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Are sex meds save?

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Hi yall,

It is now 3 month since I took the last SSRI and I still have massive ED. My question, are sex meds like viagra or cialis safe? Or can they make PSSD worse or fuck up the healing process?

I am scarred about any pills at the moment, because I had a bad crash after one dose of 5 mg Lithium orotate one month ago...

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Leb89 wrote:Hi yall,

It is now 3 month since I took the last SSRI and I still have massive ED. My question, are sex meds like viagra or cialis safe? Or can they make PSSD worse or fuck up the healing process?

I am scarred about any pills at the moment, because I had a bad crash after one dose of 5 mg Lithium orotate one month ago...

Cheers
Leb
They are safe and are generally encouraged for anyone with ED from PSSD.
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Thanks for the answer. Is it possible to take a low dose daily without any risk?
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I am scarred, that I give my body the signal that everything is fine and there is no need to heal anymore....
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Leb89 wrote:Thanks for the answer. Is it possible to take a low dose daily without any risk?
Many people take Cialis daily although it is possible to take Viagra daily. It has a long half life which will lead to more constant, stable blood levels vs. Viagra which has a shorter half life.

It may be possible to develop a tolerance to daily Viagra - there was a study done that showed people had to increase their dose over time, but that may have been due to a worsening of the underlying condition.

Note that supplementing berberine and icariin can make you more sensitive to Viagra and Cialis if you ever start building a tolerance. See the thread on berberine.
Leb89 wrote:I am scarred, that I give my body the signal that everything is fine and there is no need to heal anymore....
This will not happen. PDE5 inhibitors like Cialis and Viagra basically just affect blood flow (although Cialis seems to have a positive effect on hormone profile). What is wrong with us is likely wrong on a neurological/downstream hormonal level.
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Leb89 wrote:Thanks for the answer. Is it possible to take a low dose daily without any risk?
In general, I would get into the habit of using the word "drug" instead of the nonthreatening terms "med" or "medication" to keep the need for considering the risk-benefit profile ever present in your mind. Nearly all drugs come with very real risks that must be weighed against the benefits that can be expected.

Erectile dysfunction drugs are certainly not risk free and need to be taken very seriously. Popping a viagra or cialis every now and then is probably not going to get you into any trouble but chronic use has been shown to VERY significantly increase the risk of developing glaucoma (a leading cause of blindness) and skin cancer. Here is a great video review of much of the published literature on long term erectile dysfunction drug use:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3eRtkQtsQE

Be very critical about taking any substance chronically for long periods of time, and understand that prescription drugs are never studied in this manner in the clinical trials required for approval by regulators… in fact they are studied very minimally and companies need only present studies that show efficacy while dismissing much evidence that shows inefficacy and risk. The guidelines for long term use of virtually all drugs are written in the blood of the unassuming individuals that took the risk of taking substances for periods of time much longer than clinical trials support and inevitably suffered the consequences.

Erectile dysfunction drugs cannot be considered safe for daily use nor can they be considered as a reasonable intervention for managing PSSD symptoms or resolving the underlying mechanisms. They are “somewhat effective” for managing erectile symptoms at best, but will not improve any of the more nuanced symptoms of PSSD that are equally if not more important for enjoying sex and romance. Given the evidence, I assert that the risks of long term use greatly outweigh the benefits of these drugs.

If you are interested in a more sustainable method for improving penile blood flow long term, I recommend adding sizable servings of both watermelon and pistachios to your diet each day. Just eat these in place of whatever snacks you currently eat. From placebo controlled clinical trials it is clear that the cocktail of antioxidants and amino acids L-citrulline and L-arginine (used to produce nitric oxide… the same blood flow compound Viagra and Cialis stimulate the availability of in your body) found in these foods can be used on their own to treat erectile dysfunction. The side effects of this intervention are all extremely health promoting and sustainable for any amount of time. Here are some video literature reviews on these topics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMLiOPgyLik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TewYl_Yl310
From my own experience, I have found taking these amino acids in supplemental form to be much less effective, even at much larger doses. It is likely that the combined effect of all of the antioxidants and phytonutrients found in these whole foods is what is responsible for the erectile enhancing effects, rather than just these two amino acids.

Be very critical of any intervention proposed to “treat” or “manage” PSSD by medical professionals or otherwise. Always ask for the facts, the studies, and the hard evidence, and do not blindly trust anyone’s anecdotal reports of “safety” and “effectiveness” or scientific speculation based on flimsy out of context theories. Always base your decisions on what to try based on the weight of all of the published research and a critical look at how that compares to the experiences of your peers documented on this forum. Dealing with PSSD is a lot of work… undoubtedly. But such work is warranted and will ultimately be the means through which this community procures a robust intervention strategy and sets itself free.

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20 mg Prozac, March-May, Septemeber-December 2015
Problems starting at discontinuation: very low libido, erectile dysfunction, watery semen, no morning wood
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Hi,

Could you elaborate more on your crash from lithium?

What were your symptoms before and after the crash and have you returned to base line now?

Thanks!
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Before the lithium I think I was on my way to heal naturally, after 3 weeks off the SSRI my libido returned numbness was gone. I took the lithium 2,5 months after the two pills of Citalopram. Before the lithium my only symptom was hardcore PE. Sometimes I couldn’t masturbate with porn without coming close to orgasm immediately. Someone on this forum advised me the lithium. After taking one pill I crashed again completely:

- numb genitals
- no libido
- ED
- weaker orgasm

The only thing it resolved was the PE, but it was a fucked up trade.

It has been 6.5 months since then. Still low libido, ED, weak orgasm. I didn’t return to the baseline before so far, but the last weeks I am significantly improving in all areas.

I don’t think the lithium can’t help. But my experience with it was horrible. Maybe you don’t react that way if you are off the SSRI longer than me. Just a guess.
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That’s interesting. It’s normal for an initial worsening of symptoms on lithium due to it initially impacting ER
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Maybe I should have taken it longer. But I am through with experimenting the next 12 month anyway. Good luck to everybody who wants to try. Let me know if you need further details.
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