PSSD - an infection blocks recovery ?

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PSSD - an infection blocks recovery ?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradoxical_reaction

Antidepressants
In rare cases antidepressants can make users obsessively violent or have suicidal compulsions, which is in marked contrast to their intended effect. This can be regarded as a paradoxical reaction but, especially in the case of suicide, may in at least some cases be merely due to differing rates of effect with respect to different symptoms of depression: If generalized overinhibition of a patient's actions enters remission before that patient's dysphoria does and if the patient was already suicidal but too depressed to act on his/her inclinations, the patient may find him/herself in the situation of being both still dysphoric enough to want to commit suicide but newly free of endogenous barriers against doing so.[3] Children and adolescents are more sensitive to paradoxical reactions of self-harm and suicidal ideation while taking antidepressants but cases are still very rare.[4]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormesis# ... _graph.svg :!: :!:

when you was a sensitiv person ? the chart upward moves and normal doses create a inhibition !!!! so you get pssd from first pill, otherwise it will ocure after set of dose reduce and create a inhibition too.

thats it ? not at all... i think there must be a stressor brain cant flip back in old position, example: i had white points in vision after set of citalopram for few days, this points have some people still constant in vision, brain cant complete regeneration process ? why ? in german whatsapp group we had a cured case by myocholine, others repeated it without sucsess..... i ask him what he have done at this time too, he said he get of root infection from teeth, doctore pulled out infected teeth and at this time he got cured.

at all pssd comunity have to look more into pathogens in stool, genitales and mouth !!! i mean not the standard test, test full spectrum for pathogens, not single strains, doctores often look for only a few strains.... than you go home and think there is nothing ! so let you explain exact whats there are checking for and how you can look for more strains, example: a dermatologist can find out more with smear test at urethera as a normal urologist.

keep in mind that ssri medics make antibiotic resistances:

"We also wondered whether other non-antibiotic pharmaceuticals such as fluoxetine can directly induce antibiotic resistance."
The test involved exposing the bacterium Escherichia coli (or E. coli) to different concentrations of fluoxetine, in body-temperature baths that were changed daily for 30 days.
After this, the mutated bacteria were transferred to agar plates that contained an antibiotic. The researchers found that these bacteria had a greatly increased resistance to antibiotics chloramphenicol, amoxicillin and tetracycline - up to 50 million-fold compared to the control.
The stronger the concentration of fluoxetine, the faster the bacteria mutated over time.

https://www.sciencealert.com/antidepres ... resistance

this e coli have lot of interactions with serotonin system !!! so if we have the bad luck this mutated strains block brain recovery via serotoin interaction !!!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28209599

there is a irish guy takes 10 years ssri medics without any problems, but than there was a sudden onset of pssd during intake, could it be that pssd develops with the "wrong" strain of some pathogen or a mutated strain ? normal dont live into the guts/genitale/dental area ?

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When I developed PSSD, I had prostatitis from e.coli. Was first time in my life i took prostatitis. The strange thing is that I took bacterial prostatitis without having sex. Now there is no more presence of e.coli, but the symptoms of prostatitis have remained.
Paroxetine from 11-2012 to 08-2018 never had sexual disfunction.
Added 5-htp for help with Paroxetine withdrawal, then I got severe PSSD, with altered hormones levels and CFS.
Symptoms worsened with time.
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It would be interesting to know everyone’s health prior to developing pssd. I remember before I went on lexapro I was under extreme stress. I would get these swollen glands behind my right ear. And I was living in a moldy apt. But my cfs symptoms did not start until lexapro withdrawl.
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I’m going to be trialing truvada for this reason. A member on I believe propecia help cured his symptoms accidentally with truvada.
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Maxin wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:36 pm I’m going to be trialing truvada for this reason. A member on I believe propecia help cured his symptoms accidentally with truvada.
Did you try it?
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cdraham wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:41 am
Maxin wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:36 pm I’m going to be trialing truvada for this reason. A member on I believe propecia help cured his symptoms accidentally with truvada.
Did you try it?
I did. It made me more emotional (positive) but I stopped it for fear of liver damage if I recall. So can’t give a fair assessment tbh.I only took it for a month
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Maxin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:37 pm
cdraham wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:41 am
Maxin wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:36 pm I’m going to be trialing truvada for this reason. A member on I believe propecia help cured his symptoms accidentally with truvada.
Did you try it?
I did. It made me more emotional (positive) but I stopped it for fear of liver damage if I recall. So can’t give a fair assessment tbh.I only took it for a month
Did you ever get a 24h cortisol profile done??
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cdraham wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:52 am
Maxin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:37 pm
cdraham wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:41 am

Did you try it?
I did. It made me more emotional (positive) but I stopped it for fear of liver damage if I recall. So can’t give a fair assessment tbh.I only took it for a month
Did you ever get a 24h cortisol profile done??
You mean while on truvada or just in general? I’ve had every cortisol test there is. My 24 urine comes back normal the only one I’ve ever gotten that didn’t come back normal was the dex suppression test.
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