PSSD Forum
A forum dedicated to collaborative research into PSSD (Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction).
mycreation wrote:that's interesting. I usually claim "love doesn't exist" to everyone, and everyone gets shocked. maybe I change my mind when my PSSD is gone. =P
it's safe to start taking things slowly, but B5 dose should be half of bitartrate choline (unless it was CDP Choline, then it is 1:1). 1g B5 will do no harm, the only thing is that it will not be used as it is supposed to be. I myself have had some bad experiences lately taking lots of cholinergic things at once (including Huperzine). it caused me a diarrhea. I very much doubt choline and b5 will cause any sensitivity issues, but if you feel better this way, respect your body and take it slow.
What!???? The symptoms he describes are exactly the ones one gets with PSSD. Furthermore he got a calmer heart through PSSD and feels no adrenaline, me too. Not OK from you, catalunya! How can you write something like this. It feels terrible when people don't understand that one has PSSD, you should know this feeling. And definitely he has PSSD.catalunya wrote:sounds like severe depression.
Actually I guess everyone is depressed because of PSSD. And many are depressed before. That isn't something new. I don't know why we have to discuss this further. You sound like a physician who doesn't know PSSD. He has genitale anesthesia, no libido and emotional blunting. Exactly what PSSD makes with us. I doubt that depression can evoke real genital anesthesia. Since I have PSSD my heart is very calm and I don't feel much adrenaline anymore and it isn't possible to have a panic attack as before, he describes the same thing in another thread.catalunya wrote: you cannot say that definitively, although even if he does have pssd, which, again, is uncertain as an outside reader regarding anyone on this site, you don't think he isn't also suffering from massive depression? of course he is. read his message. you also don't think that depression isn't able to affect sexual functioning? of course it can, and to an immense degree at that, as can anxiety which is also noted.
his original post screams confounding factors.
It doesn't have to be depression. I just wanted to say that most people who get PSSD or take a SSRI , had psychic issues before. That makes sense, doesn't it? Whether it is depression or other disorders isn't relevant because the doctors will always say it's not from the SSRI no matter which disorders you have, because I guess one can get psychosomatic issues from all kinds of disorders.catalunya wrote: no, that's not what i'm saying at all. and no, not everyone, nor nearly everyone, has depression before suffering from pssd -- ssris are indicated and prescribed for a wide variety of ailments, from depressive-spectrum disorders to anxiety-spectrum disorders to premenstrual dysphoric disorder to eating disorders and so on and so forth. neither does nearly everyone have all three of the symptoms you mentioned above as core components. overgeneralization. some suffer from anhedonia, others suffer from erectile dysfunction, other yet suffer from anorgasmia, others suffer from emotional blunting, others deal with genital anesthesia, although there is no set guide (as you clearly stated within your first sentence) for diagnosing what constitutes pssd. some may deal only with, say, erectile dysfunction, i.e., one long-lasting sexual effect, while others may deal with a plethora of sexual and psychological symptoms. others still may claim physiological symptoms directly unrelated to sexual functioning, e.g., a "calm heart" or a "lack of an adrenaline rush". the list is really nebulous and all-encompassing -- this is problematic.
you can continue to generalize, but i'm going to step out of this unproductive, circular conversation as it's going nowhere.
I don't get it.. The pre-pssd psychic issues which the OP describes, are nothing special in my opinion when compared to other psychic issues. Or did I overlook something? I didn't read the OCD thread. So in my opinion it's absolutely not fair to say, it's just depression.catalunya wrote:above, the bolded portion is what is salient in the case that is being discussed -- as well as any number of others, in particular, those associated with ocd (reference the ocd-causative/correlational thread on this forum and on others).future-recovery wrote:It doesn't have to be depression. I just wanted to say that most people who get PSSD or take a SSRI , had psychic issues before. That makes sense, doesn't it? Whether it is depression or other disorders isn't relevant because the doctors will always say it's not from the SSRI no matter which disorders you have. I guess one can get psychosomatic issues from all kind of disorders.catalunya wrote: no, that's not what i'm saying at all. and no, not everyone, nor nearly everyone, has depression before suffering from pssd -- ssris are indicated and prescribed for a wide variety of ailments, from depressive-spectrum disorders to anxiety-spectrum disorders to premenstrual dysphoric disorder to eating disorders and so on and so forth. neither does nearly everyone have all three of the symptoms you mentioned above as core components. overgeneralization. some suffer from anhedonia, others suffer from erectile dysfunction, other yet suffer from anorgasmia, others suffer from emotional blunting, others deal with genital anesthesia, although there is no set guide (as you clearly stated within your first sentence) for diagnosing what constitutes pssd. some may deal only with, say, erectile dysfunction, i.e., one long-lasting sexual effect, while others may deal with a plethora of sexual and psychological symptoms. others still may claim physiological symptoms directly unrelated to sexual functioning, e.g., a "calm heart" or a "lack of an adrenaline rush". the list is really nebulous and all-encompassing -- this is problematic.
you can continue to generalize, but i'm going to step out of this unproductive, circular conversation as it's going nowhere.
When you look at the poll from this forum or the poll from the SSRI_sex group, or when you read about the cases, then you see that genitale anesthesia and emotional blunting are one of the most common symptoms.
pssd exists, to what extent is the crucial question as mental illnesses confound everything so greatly.
you seem to not understand the point being made. read through the responses again and try to make sense of it all.
have a good day -- i'm off to work.
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