My improvements while I was on naltrexone, possible link to neurosteroid theory (speculation).

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My improvements while I was on naltrexone, possible link to neurosteroid theory (speculation).

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Hi everybody.

From the past few days I've been thinking more about the neurosteroid theory, which could be the same or very much related mechanism that could be common with the PFS syndrome.
I did a naltrexone trial by myself (end of december 2017 - end of january 2018) (when I still wasn't quite sure if I had pssd).

In my introductory post:
And most importantly I would like to ask:
Has anyone here tried normal dose (25 - 50mg) naltrexone for PSSD? It restored my erections in 2 days while i was taking it.

I also found a med article from 2008 year titled "Alleviation of both binge eating and sexual dysfunction with naltrexone"
the article is about a case study of a woman, who was addicted to heroin but managed to overcome the addiction. Later she was
treated with SSRIs. After she was treated with SSRIs she had episodes of binge eating. She was prescribed naltrexone (50 - 100 mg
daily) for binge eating and surprisingly she reported a return of sexual fantasies. She stopped taking naltrexone because her
perscription ended and the fantasies went away. She got a new perscription and was taking naltrexone for the next three months - the
fantasies returned and were present during the treatment. The article states that "it's too early to propose naltrexone for post ssri
induced sexual dysfunction and more studies need to be done" So I see the similarity here with my case when I also took naltrexone.
In my original post I forgot to mention that naltrexone besides restoring my nocturnal/morning erections (they were of very good quality) and that with it I could achieve a very good erection practically "on-demand"
Naltrexone didn't restore my libido. That could be because of the opiod receptor blockade, which as a result blocks dopamine release from VTA.

Initial findings, which pushed me to test naltrexone:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2543996
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8294223

Some days ago I found this:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9385907942
Chronic exposure to naltrexone (8 days) is associated with a significant increase in the content of norepinephrine in the mesolimbic forebrain and the content of dopamine in the frontal cortex and striatum.
What I found today was very interesting:
Naltrexone selectively elevates GABAergic neuroactive steroid levels in heavy drinkers with the Asp40 allele of the OPRM1 gene: a pilot investigation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20528823

http://psych.colorado.edu/~cuchangelab/ ... ective.pdf (full publication) - from what I've read naltrexone also increased cortisol and ACTH levels.
Naltrexone treatment raised ALLO levels among carriers of the Asp40 allele, but not homozygotes for the Asn40 allele. The Asn40Asp polymorphism did not moderate effects of naltrexone on cortisol levels. Ethanol infusion modestly reduced ALLO levels in all subjects, independent of genotype or naltrexone exposure.
King and colleagues (2002) found that naltrexone increased both
ACTH and cortisol levels in healthy participants compared to
placebo and that individuals with a family history of alcoholism
displayed a heightened ACTH and cortisol response to
naltrexone (King et al., 2002).
Naltrexone increased ALLO levels by 49.4% (post hoc test
p < 0.05), relative to placebo, among individuals with the
Asp40 allele of the OPRM1 gene (AG⁄GG), but did not alter
ALLO levels among homozygotes for the Asn40 allele
Also, look at this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16963172
Endogenous opioid system blockade is known to activate the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis and other hormonal systems.
Maybe increase in allopregnenolone and increase in dopamine and noradrenaline in some regions of the brain could be responsible for my partial recovery while I was on naltrexone?

Also, I've found some info about SJW:
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/E ... 7d1ccc60fb

According to the above paper, SJW does not work like SSRI in regards to serotonin uptake. (but according to older ones it does inhibit serotonin reuptake)

And the most interesting part (linking SJW with neurosteroids):

http://abc.herbalgram.org/site/DocServe ... ?docID=168

On page 5 (section "Mechanism of action"):
May inhibit uptake of neuropeptides and neurosteroids
(Perovic and Müller, 1995; Holzl et al., 1989; Chatterjee et
al., 1998; Raffa, 1998; Butterweck et al., 1997).
However when I google by the authors and years mentioned in the inhibition of neurosteroid uptake section I initially can't find any more evidence on SJW acting on neurosteroid levels.

The one weak thing here is - There is no way I can tell if I'm Asp40 allele carrier.
Guys? What do you think about this? Could this be another proof of the neurosteroid theory?
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Re: My improvements while I was on naltrexone, possible link to neurosteroid theory (speculation).

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In my case, either LDN or normal dose naltrexone didn't work . Actually, ldn made OCD worse ( and had some pro-euphoric qualities in the same time) , while the second was pro-anhedonic. Zero effects in regard to sexual functioning or emotional blunting

Maybe naltrexone is unrelated to your recovery from pssd or specific to your organism?
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Re: My improvements while I was on naltrexone, possible link to neurosteroid theory (speculation).

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I have no idea. Maybe it's specific for my organism? Maybe the way we are fucked up now depends on what (or if) conditions we were suffering before taking them.
I was a chronic porn abuser before I took that shitty paxil. Porn addiction involves the brain's opioid system also. Maybe this is the case?
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