What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Specifically of postsynaptic 5HT1A in the limbic system. From searching on Pubmed, hypericum perforatum (SJW), electroconvulsive shock (ECS), and tricyclic antidepressants can do so. Let me know if I missed something.
You can also mention things that would downregulate postsynaptic 5HT1A in the hippocampus and amygdalae, as counteracting those would also yield a net increase in postysnaptic 5HT1A density. I know that glucocorticosteroid hypersecretion downregulates these receptors, as blunting the HPA axis is one of the mechanisms antidepressants work. What else?
You can also mention things that would downregulate postsynaptic 5HT1A in the hippocampus and amygdalae, as counteracting those would also yield a net increase in postysnaptic 5HT1A density. I know that glucocorticosteroid hypersecretion downregulates these receptors, as blunting the HPA axis is one of the mechanisms antidepressants work. What else?
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Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Would chronically using something like busiprone or flibanserin (5-ht1a agonists often used for sexual dysfunction) upregulate or downregulate in the long run?
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Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Buspirone would downregulate the autoreceptor since it's a full agonist. It won't downregulate the postsynaptic heteroreceptors since it's a weak partial agonist.Blueturtle wrote:Would chronically using something like busiprone or flibanserin (5-ht1a agonists often used for sexual dysfunction) upregulate or downregulate in the long run?
Flibanserin is selective to only the postsynaptic receptors, bypassing the presynaptic ones. It doesn't affect hippocampal 5HT1A receptors, so it's safe even if it eventually downregulates cortical ones. Pretty good on paper, and I'll try it soon for anhedonia and blunted affect.
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Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Nicotine, acutely: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs ... 01.01501.x
E2 + prog (in females): https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/54679
Cannabinoids: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 2210005099
Rhodiola (not sure if pre/post): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.sci-hub.se/pubmed/22921986
SJW (not sure if pre/post): https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _receptors
Tangentially related stuff I stumbled upon:
More postsynaptic 5HT1A causes more neurogenesis: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4016306838
Postsynaptic 5HT1A agonism and 5HT2B antagonism increase Ach: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs ... 62051804.x
E2 + prog (in females): https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/54679
Cannabinoids: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 2210005099
Rhodiola (not sure if pre/post): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.sci-hub.se/pubmed/22921986
SJW (not sure if pre/post): https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _receptors
Tangentially related stuff I stumbled upon:
More postsynaptic 5HT1A causes more neurogenesis: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 4016306838
Postsynaptic 5HT1A agonism and 5HT2B antagonism increase Ach: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs ... 62051804.x
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Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Isn't Binospirone the perfect one for this? Partial agonist for presynaptic atuoreceptors + antagonist for postsynaptic ones.
Either WAY-100635 or WAY-100135. I don't know if they behave differently for pre/post receptors but if they antagonitze each, then it's also good cause there's a great chance either are desensitized.
Either WAY-100635 or WAY-100135. I don't know if they behave differently for pre/post receptors but if they antagonitze each, then it's also good cause there's a great chance either are desensitized.
Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
For the sake of upregulating postsynaptic receptors? thing is, they won't stay upregulated when one stops taking it. I think a partial agonist at all 5HT1A receptors is better for our condition given that the intrinsic activity is ~70%taarn wrote:Isn't Binospirone the perfect one for this? Partial agonist for presynaptic atuoreceptors + antagonist for postsynaptic ones.
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Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
@Mesolimbo So you say that after antagonism the receptors will be back to the new (bad) homeostasis? Because of faulty SERT or whatever that keeps them desensitized?
Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Isnt this the whole reason why people have windows instead of cures in the first place? For instance on SJW many saw benefits, but they disappeared after days-weeks.Mesolimbo wrote:For the sake of upregulating postsynaptic receptors? thing is, they won't stay upregulated when one stops taking it. I think a partial agonist at all 5HT1A receptors is better for our condition given that the intrinsic activity is ~70%taarn wrote:Isn't Binospirone the perfect one for this? Partial agonist for presynaptic atuoreceptors + antagonist for postsynaptic ones.
Having said that, there are plenty examples where people got cured, while others experienced a rebound on the same substance. Still worth exploring this route more id say.
Re: What upregulates postsynaptic 5HT1A receptors?
Could this be relevant?
From http://www.pssdforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 4794#p4794
From http://www.pssdforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 4794#p4794
ethanmatthews wrote:exercise (specifically running) running increases the number of 5-ht1a autoreceptors in the dorsal raphe nuclei (DRN) after 6 weeks of voluntary running, and this causes a significant reduction (40%) in serotonin in the extracellular space in the DRN. read this paper http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4303035/
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